The Man Who Led NATO Is Trying to Frighten You

In Episode 55 of his podcast "In the Room with Peter Bergen," New America Vice President and ASU Professor of Practice Peter Bergen discusses how the former commander of NATO, retired Admiral James Stavridis and retired Marine Captain Elliot Ackerman are using fiction to explore the potential dangers facing global security:

How could the US lose a war with China? What happens if American political divisions keep getting more extreme? And what in the world will A.I, mean for national security? These are the questions that keep the former commander of NATO, retired Admiral James Stavridis and retired Marine Captain Elliot Ackerman up at night. But unlike a lot of people in their shoes, they haven’t been harrying policymakers with op-eds or whitepapers. Instead they teamed up to write a set of novels showing how badly things could go—and what the US can do to avoid a nightmarish future.

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