Counting the Uncounted: Azmat Khan and Anand Gopal on their groundbreaking civilian casualty study

National Fellow Azmat Khan and Anand Gopal of ISP were interviewed by Airwars about reporting on civilian deaths and their longform piece, “The Uncounted.”

Three weeks after journalists Azmat Khan and Anand Gopal published a damning New York Times account of civilian deaths caused by anti-ISIS airstrikes, the Coalition has yet to respond publicly. The investigation represented the first large scale, methodical ground survey of airstrikes and the harm they have caused in the war, in this case from three areas of Northern Iraq targeted by the Coalition. Civilian casualties were found to be 31 times more likely than the alliance was admitting.

Airwars recently sat down with Khan and Gopal in New York City to learn more about how they carried out their investigation. Below are highlights from the interview, lightly edited for clarity.