Student Stories from Gainful Employment Programs UPDATED
Blog Post
June 16, 2013
Last week, Higher Ed Watch took a look at some of the gainful employment policy questions raised in the over 900 public comments submitted to the Department of Education. While policy discussions will ultimately be the most important considerations as the regulatory process moves forward, it's also important to remember that these issues do affect real people. So today we're looking at what some current and former students at these programs had to say in their comments.
Ambition and hope do not pan out in Wisconsin
For many low-income and non-traditional students, going to college can be a source of hope and a chance for a better life, even in spite of fears about not having succeeded academically in the past. That sense of opportunity is prevalent in a combined set of 13 comments from students who now appear to be enrolled in courses at Milwaukee Area Technical College. These comments almost all start on a hopeful note with a sense of excitement for a better life. Many detail previously unachieved academic successes in these programs--high grade point averages, scholarship-winning essays--the type of accomplishment that shows they are college-caliber material. But then the reversal--a degree with no return, a dispute over further debts, no change in status--that leaves them arguably worse off and in debt. (The original comments have been temporarily taken down from Regulations.gov with a request to remove personally identifiable information, so I created a redacted version here.)
A story from one woman who enrolled at Sanford Brown to become a probation officer encapsulates this emotional roller coaster:
I was so excited about going to Sanford Brown College. I was sold because I was told I could get small class sizes and get extra help if I needed and graduate faster because the courses were 5 weeks long and you went to school year round until you graduated....I went ahead and took the admissions test and paid $50.00 for it. I was told by the financial aid personnel that I could also write a 500 word paper on why higher education was important and win a $1,500 scholarship. I won the scholarship because of the paper I wrote. I was so excited and proud of myself. I was looking forward to the wonderful future my 3 kids and I were going to have. I was going to finish college and finally have a career which I loved which was helping people. I was assured by all the admissions people at Sanford Brown College that I had made the right choice to attend that college. They all were so friendly and seemed to want this as much as I did.
Confusion rules the day
Given all the work that's been done to raise questions about some gainful employment programs, it's fair to ask why students are still choosing to enroll in certain ones that already have bad outcomes (see 27 percent default rate at Sanford Brown). The answer, at least partially, appears to be confusion. Lack of clarity around costs, expected return, likelihood of finishing, transfer opportunities, and ability to pass licensing tests whether credits would transfer, and whether they will even be able to sit for the necessary licensing tests pop up again and again in a host of comments. (See for example, this comment about trying to get an animation degree or page 4 of the document labeled "student complaints.")
Confusion can be one way to shift personal responsibility away from the individual and to the program, but it also seems to be a symptom of our opaque higher education system and false quality assurance provided by accreditation. In a working transparent market, concerns about cost, transfer, etc. should not be happening. The fact that they are again reiterates the importance of efforts like the College Scorecard and Financial Aid Shopping Sheet, which try to standardize information to help with comparisons may be some assistance, but are struggling to get widespread adoption.
But better information is not enough unless either: 1) consumers change their behavior and take a more skeptical and less trusting approach to choosing colleges or 2) they have a better quality assurance that the institutions where they can take their aid have been sufficiently vetted to merit a more trusting relationship. Right now, students face the worst of both worlds thanks to accreditation. With the imprimatur of accrediting agencies (and thus by implication the Department of Education), accreditation provides a false sense of security for students that breeds an implicit level of trust toward the institution that may not be warranted. Unlike a mechanic you've never used before, a student trusts her accredited college will charge her a reasonable price and give her a service that works. And she does that because some other group of people have reviewed the college to check its quality. Experts in higher education have signed off on it, so why shouldn't she trust that seal? And so students trust that their accredited institution will offer accredited law degrees in their state--but that's not always true, as a student from Iowa found out when he tried to get a law degree from a program whose lack of recognition from the American Bar Association meant California was the only state in which he could become a lawyer. Or they might assume that their credits could be used at colleges beyond the one they are currently attending., which was not the case for many students who tried to take their coursework from proprietary institutions to Milwaukee Area Technical College.
Solving this issue of trust can be done one of two ways. First, Congress could change the requirements around accreditation to compel these agencies to actually set clear standards for outcomes and results--including things like having necessary programmatic accreditation--which would likely result in closing some institutions and accreditors for poor performance. Or, we could go the opposite way and acknowledge that accreditation is not a meaningful indicator of anything and students should not assume that just because a college gets federal student aid that means they should assume it's any good. The former is extremely difficult politically. The latter is not only hard to accomplish but would make the path into college even more confusing for low-income students that currently have to trust and rely on their financial aid office for help navigating Federal grants and loans. Either way this issue indicates more must be done to think about not just what information consumers use for their decisions, but also how they interact with the colleges they are considering attending.
Does this really require a college credential?
The majority of companies hiring for Billing have on the job training for people who have been hired by the company including Aurora Healthcare. ... The HIPPAA, JCAHO and Medical Terminology courses are being given as on the job training as free computer based learning courses. Positions in Coding for hospitals are impossible to get into without years of experience. The Certificate I received has not been useful to me and is not worth the $17,000 I now owe.